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and russian defense official is discussing ukraine later today at nato in brussels. so, there is definitely a change. whether this change is sustained is another question. back to you be. >> on the international stage the only reality that putin seems to be willing to acquiesce to is the economic reality of what this is doing in russia to their market. what's putin's next move? >> reporter: well, you're right. putin -- if there's one man who could make or break a deal, it's vladimir putin and it's obviously unclear what his next move is. washington and berlin are pushing this idea of sending international observers to monitor any rights abuses against russians or pro-russians on crimea, allowing hopefully some kind of pullback by those russian forces or pro-russian forces. but will putin let them in even? we don't know that. now that putin controls crimea, thomas, some analysts are telling moscow that he will probably try to make that the new status quo, a kind of permanent reminder to everyone that whatever the future of ukraine is, it's going to have to pass throug
and russian defense official is discussing ukraine later today at nato in brussels. so, there is definitely a change. whether this change is sustained is another question. back to you be. >> on the international stage the only reality that putin seems to be willing to acquiesce to is the economic reality of what this is doing in russia to their market. what's putin's next move? >> reporter: well, you're right. putin -- if there's one man who could make or break a deal, it's vladimir...
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what do you make of this back and forth from the defense attorney? >> this is a standard tactic, both in the united states and there, of defense attorneys or any attorneys to show that the witnesses had planned their story together. that two witnesses correspond exactly to what each other is saying and, therefore, it's probably not true, because it's not in their own natural language. and the reason this particular testimony is important is because these witnesses say they heard screaming and shouting like a fight between reeva steenkamp and oscar pistorius before the shooting. that would give a motive to oscar for intentionally killing. so this is really big evidence and very important evidence of the prosecution in the intentional murder case. >> and because you specialize in international law here, obviously, the most physical difference we see is the positioning of oscar pistorius, as well as the absence of a jury here, but what are you watching in this case as it relates to the law in south africa that is key perhaps to whatever decision is made
what do you make of this back and forth from the defense attorney? >> this is a standard tactic, both in the united states and there, of defense attorneys or any attorneys to show that the witnesses had planned their story together. that two witnesses correspond exactly to what each other is saying and, therefore, it's probably not true, because it's not in their own natural language. and the reason this particular testimony is important is because these witnesses say they heard screaming...
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let's bring in the former assistant secretary of defense under president reagan. thanks to you both for joining me. i want to talk about this idea of what options really are available. this morning there was a lot of conversation on the various sunday talk shows about things like boycotting the g-8 summit in sochi, potentially the expulsion of russia from the g-8, economic sanctions, suspension of trade talks, asset freezes, visa bans. in your mind, what would be the strongest leverage point out of those options? >> i think all these options are very good. they're all possible. suspension of g-8 or kicking out russia of g-8 and turning it back into g-7 would be very, very strong message and very appropriate message because, of course, russia got into g-8 out of pity when the soviet union collapsed, so it really had no business to be there to start with. so here we are back to the reality. there are other options. russia is big on sending its gas to europe. there's a south stream pipeline being constructed and put forward. so maybe a blocking of that project can al
let's bring in the former assistant secretary of defense under president reagan. thanks to you both for joining me. i want to talk about this idea of what options really are available. this morning there was a lot of conversation on the various sunday talk shows about things like boycotting the g-8 summit in sochi, potentially the expulsion of russia from the g-8, economic sanctions, suspension of trade talks, asset freezes, visa bans. in your mind, what would be the strongest leverage point...
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defense secretary chuck hagel will be live on capitol hill in just a few minutes. >>> and up next, if it's wednesday, we've got election results. we've got the winners and losers and the races still not over in texas. the lone star state primary roundup is next. >>> first, a look ahead at the politics planner. you're watching "the daily rundown" only msnbc. president obama taking a trip, going to talk about the minimum wage. we'll be right back. ic) defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly soluble, easily absorbed. save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.ould yep, everybody knows that. well, did you know the ancient pyramids were actually a mistake? uh-oh. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. [ male announcer ] nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. >>> the 2014 election cycle kicked off yesterday in texas, and if it's wednesday, we've got election results as we continue our tdr 50 look at the lone star. by and large, it w
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the defense secretary, james clapper, they left the white house earlier today. i can tell you, there are still a few black suvs parked outside of the west wing, a suggestion that there could still be some high-level meetings going on. we also know that defense secretary hagel spoke with his russian counterpart earlier today. white house officials telling me that senior administration officials are monitoring the developments in the ukraine quite closely. now, of course, all of this comes after yesterday's stern warning from president obama who said there would be costs if russia were to engage militarily in ukraine. the question is, what will those costs be? the president vague about that yesterday. but officials here tell nbc news that it could include a boycott of the g-8 summit. that will be held in sochi, russia, this summer. a boycott not just of the u.s. but also of its european allies. that's one of the things that's under consideration. not surprisingly, craig, some of the more hawkish members of congress would like to see the president taking a tougher
the defense secretary, james clapper, they left the white house earlier today. i can tell you, there are still a few black suvs parked outside of the west wing, a suggestion that there could still be some high-level meetings going on. we also know that defense secretary hagel spoke with his russian counterpart earlier today. white house officials telling me that senior administration officials are monitoring the developments in the ukraine quite closely. now, of course, all of this comes after...
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according to a senior defense official, defense secretary chuck hagel, had a it telephone conversation with his counterpart today. we're still waiting to get details about what specifically was said during that conversation. but, of course, the white house monitoring the situation quite closely, in consultation with its partners abroad. for days, the administration has been warning russia against intervening in ukraine. of course, on friday, it was clear that that diplomatic strategy had failed, so president obama came out with a strong warning to russia not to ramp this up any further. he said there would be costs. here's a little bit more of what he had to say. take a listen. >> throughout this crisis, we have been very clear about one fundamental principle. the ukrainian people deserve the opportunity to determine their own future. together with our european allies, we have urged an end to the violence, and encouraged ukrainians to pursue a course in which they stabilize their country, forge a broad based government and move to elections this spring. >> reporter: so the president wa
according to a senior defense official, defense secretary chuck hagel, had a it telephone conversation with his counterpart today. we're still waiting to get details about what specifically was said during that conversation. but, of course, the white house monitoring the situation quite closely, in consultation with its partners abroad. for days, the administration has been warning russia against intervening in ukraine. of course, on friday, it was clear that that diplomatic strategy had...
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>> of defense? >> that's not even a position. minister of defense. he thinks he's a [ bleep ] black panther or something. not going to take him seriously. >> now we're going into little italy right here. >> he was running around this gym claiming a position that doesn't even exist so instead of being abusive and having him touched we'll just let him be. you know, just be by yourself because he's definitely not a part of my team. snchts while many of the 800 male inmates stay tight lipped it's another story among the 50 or so women in the story. >> do you want your blanket and your sheets? >> i don't want nothing. >> you got it. you got it. >> just dramatic all together. being locked up, confined to a small unit, dealing with all the different personalities, females i guess by nature are confrontational sometimes. >> i'm not mad at you. i'm just telling you that's the way it is. >> everybody is dealing with different situations, emotions are flying. they're petty and this is how they release their anger. >> you are your own racist. some people think t
>> of defense? >> that's not even a position. minister of defense. he thinks he's a [ bleep ] black panther or something. not going to take him seriously. >> now we're going into little italy right here. >> he was running around this gym claiming a position that doesn't even exist so instead of being abusive and having him touched we'll just let him be. you know, just be by yourself because he's definitely not a part of my team. snchts while many of the 800 male inmates...
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we've been fighting for years to overturn the entirety of the defense of marriage act. >> do you think decisions that have been made now by judges in six different states are unconstitutional? >> we support the constitutional right of committed same sex couples to engage in civil marriage partnerships. we oppose any sort of discrimination being codified into law, which is what sb-1062 would have done had governor brewer signed it into law, this she did not tonight. >> why can't the republican party en masse -- if it's wrong for a private wedding photographer to be allowed to discriminate against a gay couple, clearly it should be wrong for an employer of a wedding photographer to fire that wedding photographer, because they are gay, right? that's the practice it would put an end to. >> correct. >> there seems to be no gap in the logic between those two. yet they're sitting there and waiting for the house republicans to take it up and pass it. >> it's sitting there having received bipartisan passage in the united states senate with 10 republicans voting for it, actually, both senators m
we've been fighting for years to overturn the entirety of the defense of marriage act. >> do you think decisions that have been made now by judges in six different states are unconstitutional? >> we support the constitutional right of committed same sex couples to engage in civil marriage partnerships. we oppose any sort of discrimination being codified into law, which is what sb-1062 would have done had governor brewer signed it into law, this she did not tonight. >> why...
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but now, to be fair and in perspective, you know, what the defense will do at that very point is then get out the tapes, 100 other tapes from 911 tapes over the period of the last few years, and you'll see that this is not all that unusual. >> sure. but let's go to this call that grabbed me or a juror, i would think. here is a call from a frustrated woman who had already called 911 once, and was still waiting for the ambulance to arrive. let's listen to this call. >> 911. where is your emergency? >> i called. >> i know. is it for 1345 south -- >> yes, yes. >> they're on your way. you only called a couple of minutes ago. they're on their way, okay. >> you know, it's an emergency, and they are still not here. >> okay. they're on their way. >> okay, bye. >> all right, bye. >> well, there is a person rather pathetically trying to get the ambulance to show up that normally would have gotten there, presumably. and there you have this traffic gridlock. it doesn't get through. >> and it was causing problems for the dispatchers too. not only were they having to deal with the normal calls comin
but now, to be fair and in perspective, you know, what the defense will do at that very point is then get out the tapes, 100 other tapes from 911 tapes over the period of the last few years, and you'll see that this is not all that unusual. >> sure. but let's go to this call that grabbed me or a juror, i would think. here is a call from a frustrated woman who had already called 911 once, and was still waiting for the ambulance to arrive. let's listen to this call. >> 911. where is...
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with the trial set to begin next week, joining me now is general sinclair's lead defense attorney mr. chef. the prosecutor quit. we did reach out to the pentagon and prosecution and get statements and the pentagon has yet to get back to us for a statement and of course we will have the pentagon's side of the story whenever they do get back to us. tell me your best argument for why the charges should be dismissed? >> well the charges should be dismissed because it's pretty clear the decision-making in the case is being driven by politics and people at the pentagon as opposed to where it should be with the convening authority at fort bragg. this is a case that has always been a remarkably thin case in terms of the evidence. there are thousands and thousands of text messages and personal journals by the person who's accusing general sinclair of sexual assault. it demonstrates the consensual nature of their relationship. on top of that, in early january she perjured herself during a pretrial hearing. in that circumstance, in every experience i've had both as prosecutor and defense lawyer
with the trial set to begin next week, joining me now is general sinclair's lead defense attorney mr. chef. the prosecutor quit. we did reach out to the pentagon and prosecution and get statements and the pentagon has yet to get back to us for a statement and of course we will have the pentagon's side of the story whenever they do get back to us. tell me your best argument for why the charges should be dismissed? >> well the charges should be dismissed because it's pretty clear the...
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but in many ways you've written that it was by the defense. can you explain? >> there is a reason why millions of americans took to the streets to get george zimmerman arrested and that's because the case was very obviously about race. and yet in the courtroom, the case was completely bungled by the prosecution on the issue of race. the defense tried to paint trayvon martin as a match, that was their word, to two african-american burglars who had been in the community six months before. he had nothing to do with. and the prosecutors did that rise to their feet and say what does that have to do with trayvon martin. so they allowed the defense to own the race issue in a very illogical manner. the judge rule that had they couldn't talk about racial profiling, just the word profiling. which made no sense. the prosecution should have argued their evidence that all of the calls that zimmerman made in the six months prior to the shooting about suspicious people in the neighborhood were about african-americans. 100%. you don't get statistics like that very often. >> s
but in many ways you've written that it was by the defense. can you explain? >> there is a reason why millions of americans took to the streets to get george zimmerman arrested and that's because the case was very obviously about race. and yet in the courtroom, the case was completely bungled by the prosecution on the issue of race. the defense tried to paint trayvon martin as a match, that was their word, to two african-american burglars who had been in the community six months before....
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as you pointed out, karen, we saw defense secretary chuck hagel leaving the wours early and dni chief james clapper as well as other officials. this comes on a very stern warning yesterday. he said to russia if they were to take military steps in ukraine, that there would be costs associated with that. so the big question is what will those costs be? what are they considering? one white house official telling nbc news that those costs could include a possible boycott of the g-8 summit. that is slated to happen in sochi, russia, the very same place where the olympics were held in june. >> presumably i'm assuming the white house is weighing those options given there may be action at the u.n. security council or they think that's doubtful, but as they also keep app eye an eye on what is happening in the ukraine and essentially what putin does next. >> reporter: they are weighing their options very carefully, you're absolutely right. the question is will there be more that they're putting on the table in addition to the potential boycott of the g-8 summit. i can tell you they are getting
as you pointed out, karen, we saw defense secretary chuck hagel leaving the wours early and dni chief james clapper as well as other officials. this comes on a very stern warning yesterday. he said to russia if they were to take military steps in ukraine, that there would be costs associated with that. so the big question is what will those costs be? what are they considering? one white house official telling nbc news that those costs could include a possible boycott of the g-8 summit. that is...
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she tried unsuccessfully to use florida's stand your ground law in her defense. an appeals judge threw out that conviction and freed from prison right before thanksgiving. she faces a retrial and delay and this week the prosecution announced they are seeking consecutive, not concurrent sentences which would make it 60 years. that's practical terms a life sentence. >> for shooting a wall. >> for shooting a wall. >> i disagree with that. i don't think it's shooting the wall. >> let's start with you. the taco, what is your take in legal terms, what's the basis for seeking consecutive? sfl the law permits it and she's charged in three counts. there are 20-year counts. look, the attorney general, prosecution is doing what the law gives them the ability to do and discretion to do. this case i think underscores more than anything the unfair results and sentencing you can have when these guidelines and sentencing sort of mandatory minimums strip the judge from the judge's discretion, evaluate all of the facts and circumstances. this lady was given 20 years and the judge
she tried unsuccessfully to use florida's stand your ground law in her defense. an appeals judge threw out that conviction and freed from prison right before thanksgiving. she faces a retrial and delay and this week the prosecution announced they are seeking consecutive, not concurrent sentences which would make it 60 years. that's practical terms a life sentence. >> for shooting a wall. >> for shooting a wall. >> i disagree with that. i don't think it's shooting the wall....
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. >> she's assisted in her defense by an inmate advocate. >> this is so embarrassing. >> how do you plead? >> not guilty. >> the hearing quickly turns to the evidence. and whether the sum of their parts equals a whole. >> they're not constructed together. the ace bandages were for my ankle. the glove was to clean my toilet. trash bags we get every day and the tampons i get at the commissary. >> and what about the highlighter? >> i got that from field day. >> what were you doing with a highlighter in the tampon? >> i had no idea it was in there. >> was it like this when you -- >> the way that the body of this writeup is, it's making it sound like mr. roundtree found an assembled sex toy. i'm asking for a dismissal on this. >> the hearings officer, sergeant gooch, places a call to the officer who wrote the disciplinary report. >> officer roundtree, you confiscated the items that she had, the highlighter and things of that? >> right. >> okay. when you collected the evidence on this, was this intact? >> the first time we saw her it was intact. when we went back in there, the rubber glove was
. >> she's assisted in her defense by an inmate advocate. >> this is so embarrassing. >> how do you plead? >> not guilty. >> the hearing quickly turns to the evidence. and whether the sum of their parts equals a whole. >> they're not constructed together. the ace bandages were for my ankle. the glove was to clean my toilet. trash bags we get every day and the tampons i get at the commissary. >> and what about the highlighter? >> i got that from...
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how can we stop an occupation when these are self-defense forces? these are not russian." that really dampened hopes of any meaningful progress. at least they've talked, and at least it has gone on longer than we thought. the other big news, of course, is the e.u. weighing in with a big financial package, offering $15 billion worth of aid. that comes after yesterday's announcement of a billion dollars of -- of loan guarantees from the u.s. the priority, aside from calming down the security situation in crimea, is, of course, to try and stabilize the ukrainian economy which is in a terrible way with the russians turning the screws still more. the finance ministry here have been frank. they say we've got no money left. the coffers are empty, it's been stolen. also in the east, we've seen more violence, clashes between pro-russian protesters and supporters of the ukrainian government. we've had the -- the government offices there occupied first by the pro-russians, pushed out, and then the pro-ukrainians. and now again today, the pro-russians taking control of that building a
how can we stop an occupation when these are self-defense forces? these are not russian." that really dampened hopes of any meaningful progress. at least they've talked, and at least it has gone on longer than we thought. the other big news, of course, is the e.u. weighing in with a big financial package, offering $15 billion worth of aid. that comes after yesterday's announcement of a billion dollars of -- of loan guarantees from the u.s. the priority, aside from calming down the security...
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this proposed law would probably give a business in that case a pretty good defense. not so clear if a business owner said, i'm not going to serve you because of your religious beliefs, that would run afoul of the arizona public accommodation law. how much this religious freedom restoration act would be an escape hatch from that isn't completely clear, but it would be a much tougher case. >> one more quick question to you, pete. i want to ask about the question of potential constitution aalit. has there been any talk about whether something like this would be on its face potentially unconstitutional. >> there are many who believe it would be but it's an untested case. but the core of this is the notion that a business should have religious freedom. that is turning out to be a very controversial view, but it's going to get an airing at the u.s. supreme court next month because that is the theory of two businesses who say they should not have to pay for contraceptive care under the new obamacare law. the hobby lobby and a woodworking company in the midwest both say they
this proposed law would probably give a business in that case a pretty good defense. not so clear if a business owner said, i'm not going to serve you because of your religious beliefs, that would run afoul of the arizona public accommodation law. how much this religious freedom restoration act would be an escape hatch from that isn't completely clear, but it would be a much tougher case. >> one more quick question to you, pete. i want to ask about the question of potential constitution...
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senator mccaskill would eliminate the good soldier defense, which allows perpendicul perpetrators as character as a defense. >>> today the court-martial began for brigadier general jeffrey sinclair, one of the highest ranking officers ever to be tried on sexual assault charges. he immediated guilty to having an improper relationship with a junior officer but not guilty to five other charges, including sexual assault. he be judged by a jury of his peers. he faces life in prison if convicted. whenever you're read. thank you. thank you. i got this. oh, no, i'll get it! let me get it. uh-uh-uh. i don't want you to pay for this. it's not happening, honey. let her get it. she got her safe driving bonus check from allstate last week. and it's her treat. what about a tip? oh, here's one... get an allstate agent. nice! [ female announcer ] switch today and get two safe driving bonus checks a year for driving safely. only from allstate. call 866-905-6500 now. here we go! hold on man. is that a leak up there? that's a drip. whoo. okay. aah. now that's a leak. that is a leak! and if you don't ha
senator mccaskill would eliminate the good soldier defense, which allows perpendicul perpetrators as character as a defense. >>> today the court-martial began for brigadier general jeffrey sinclair, one of the highest ranking officers ever to be tried on sexual assault charges. he immediated guilty to having an improper relationship with a junior officer but not guilty to five other charges, including sexual assault. he be judged by a jury of his peers. he faces life in prison if...
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a judge rejected that defense and she was sentenced to 20 years in prison. alexander had since been granted a retrial, after a court found the judge gave the jury improper instructions. now angela corey's office is looking to put her away for 60 years. marissa alexander's case is being used to still florida's expansion of stand your ground, but stand your ground didn't provide justice to marissa alexander the first time, what makes us think a small legislative fix will make any difference the next time? joining me now, my colleague the reverend al sharpton from florida this evening. rev, it's good to have you. >> thank you, chris. good to be with you. >> so you're going to be participating in a rally, i believe, on march 10th around some of these issues having to do with stand your ground. you spent a lot of time in florida since the trayvon martin killing. what's your response to the florida legislature's moves? >> well, i think that it is a very cynical move because what they are doing is using marissa alexander's case, which many of us feel is an egregiou
a judge rejected that defense and she was sentenced to 20 years in prison. alexander had since been granted a retrial, after a court found the judge gave the jury improper instructions. now angela corey's office is looking to put her away for 60 years. marissa alexander's case is being used to still florida's expansion of stand your ground, but stand your ground didn't provide justice to marissa alexander the first time, what makes us think a small legislative fix will make any difference the...
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the former olympian's defense attorneys spent today pushing back on defense statements detailing reeva steenkamp's screams before the death. also concerned about witness security. one witness told court officials he received threatening phone calls following his testimony. constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cash card from capital one, i get 2% cash back on every purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally someone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards! meetings start at 11, cindy. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day. what's in your wallet? i need your timesheets, larry! ukraine where a crowd of protesters blocked the car belonging to an u.n. envoy, robert suri, in crimea. james was there and tweeted throughout the entire incident. first, he tweeted the crowd chant, russia, russia, as u.n. envoy leaves coffee shop and scrambles into waiting car. finally, robert finally on his way to the airport. police havi
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but this was self-defense, that is a complete defense. and she makes a pretty good story for self-defense. but if the jury says otherwise, so be it. 20 years behind bars that she points out, effectively a life sentence if it goes up to 60 years, when no one was harmed, and there is no question that her husband has a history of abuse against her. >> congresswoman corrine brown actually confronted angela corey, the prosecutor, who also happened to be the prosecutor in the case around jordan davis and trayvon martin. yet she is the prosecutor of marissa alexander. watch this and give me your reaction, lisa. >> in this case, i understand what could have happened. >> yes, ma'am. >> but it did not happen. it did not happen. and so all we was asking and all the community is asking for is mercy and justice. >> congresswoman, i showed her mercy when i sat down with her, we offered her -- >> 20 years is not even justice. >> so that was in 2012, right after the case with marissa alexander and angela cory standing there being cold fronf by the congre
but this was self-defense, that is a complete defense. and she makes a pretty good story for self-defense. but if the jury says otherwise, so be it. 20 years behind bars that she points out, effectively a life sentence if it goes up to 60 years, when no one was harmed, and there is no question that her husband has a history of abuse against her. >> congresswoman corrine brown actually confronted angela corey, the prosecutor, who also happened to be the prosecutor in the case around jordan...
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she made her most extended defense, for instance, of the health care law. >> -- you insure your car. why? because you don't want something bad to happen to it, so insure yourself because, you know, you don't know whether something bad could happen to you. >> but earlier that same day, she did strike a note of caution on health care, saying this, quote, i think we're on the right track in many respects, but i would be the first to say if things aren't working, then we need people of good faith to come together and make evidence-based changes. now, republicans jumped on those comments by hillary clinton, but you should know she really didn't say anything different than what we've heard from president obama on fixes to the law. take a listen to this obama excerpt. >> -- in terms of winning back the confidence of the american people is just to work as hard as i can, identify the problems that we've got, make sure that we're fixing them, we're just going about to keep on chipping away at this until the job is done. >> almost word-for-word if you notice there. stumping for senate candidate
she made her most extended defense, for instance, of the health care law. >> -- you insure your car. why? because you don't want something bad to happen to it, so insure yourself because, you know, you don't know whether something bad could happen to you. >> but earlier that same day, she did strike a note of caution on health care, saying this, quote, i think we're on the right track in many respects, but i would be the first to say if things aren't working, then we need people of...
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>> every case is different but in this case, you had a lot of things going for the defense. one of the things about a famous defendant is it brings you the best of times and worst of times on the justice system. on the good side you can get the best lawyers and best experts and it doesn't hurt to be a kennedy. juries are going to give you not only a reasonable doubt but sometimes a benefit of a doubt that isn't so reasonable. >> and right, also i think everyone takes ambien and knows that's a relatable thing. i prefer ny gsquil. >> this took 20 months and required change of venue. do you think prosecutors made the right decision to pursue the case? >> i think the prosecutors are looking at this and saying look, we had no choice. she was arrested and impaired and in a condition where anybody else would have been arrested. we have to treat a famous person and the problem was it was a close case. when the defense worked it and prosecution expert witness saying yeah, you could take it and actually not know that you're impaired, when you get that kind of admission from the prosec
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oden lloyd here, what is the latest on his defense and this process moving forward here in this case? >> right now there's a gag order in the case. and his defense is obviously once more -- wants more documents and data from the prosecution as to what evidence they have against hernandez. that's winding its way through the court system. so far there's no trial date. there are three other defendants in the case and these people are being grilled. drips and drabs are coming out in regards to the documents, but the case against aaron hernandez are still unfolding and there are a number of court hearings that need to take place later this year and later this month and next month. there's also the question of the murder weapon. so far according to sources we have, law enforcement sources, they still have not found the murder weapon in the oden lloyd slaying. >> wow, all right, mike, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks a lot. >>> well, up next, a new stand-your-ground controversy in florida. a judge is, quote, reluctantly returning guns over to a blind florida man acquitted for
oden lloyd here, what is the latest on his defense and this process moving forward here in this case? >> right now there's a gag order in the case. and his defense is obviously once more -- wants more documents and data from the prosecution as to what evidence they have against hernandez. that's winding its way through the court system. so far there's no trial date. there are three other defendants in the case and these people are being grilled. drips and drabs are coming out in regards...
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intervention in the ukraine would be, quote, a grave mistake, thoughts eceddo today by secretary of defense chuck hagel. >> i'm closely watching the exercises along the ukrainian border. i expect russia to be transparent about the activities and i urge them not to take any steps that could be misinterpreted or lead to miscalculation, during a very delicate time. >> the crisis now centers on the region of crimea, in southern ukraine, where pro-russian gunmen have seized control of parliament, barricading themselves inside, even raising russian flags. cold war fears with stoke yesterday when russia announced it's sending 150,000 troops to the border to engage in six games of war games, in what russian media described as the biggest exercise since the soviet era. there's now word unconfirmed that the president and we've heard these comments from secretary hagel, jim. what seems to be the tone where you are. >> tamron, first of all, turning quickly to kiev, what a first day on the job to arseni -- he's the former economy and foreign minister, very well known to both the u.s. and russia. he was
intervention in the ukraine would be, quote, a grave mistake, thoughts eceddo today by secretary of defense chuck hagel. >> i'm closely watching the exercises along the ukrainian border. i expect russia to be transparent about the activities and i urge them not to take any steps that could be misinterpreted or lead to miscalculation, during a very delicate time. >> the crisis now centers on the region of crimea, in southern ukraine, where pro-russian gunmen have seized control of...
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i think we ought to be talking about poland about that missile defense shield. we need to look at things that make shall lad mir putin pay a price for what he's done here. >> long term, but what's the end game in this congress. what would you like to see the president do? >> i think it's helpful if we are unified so we send that strong signal to vladimir putin that we are going to act. again, not just talking tough, but actually carrying through with those actions. impose those sanctions. don't give them free rein. freeze their assets, restrict their visas, actually inflict some pain on these people to let them know we are serious. it's not just tough talk. it will be tough action and successfully tougher action if they continue this illegal and unlawful activity. >> obviously i don't need to tell you the concern is where do you draw that line between having have laid mer putin pay a price or putting the pressure on him and alienating our allies who have serious and deep economic interests in russia. >> that's what i was talking about longer term, we need to eas
i think we ought to be talking about poland about that missile defense shield. we need to look at things that make shall lad mir putin pay a price for what he's done here. >> long term, but what's the end game in this congress. what would you like to see the president do? >> i think it's helpful if we are unified so we send that strong signal to vladimir putin that we are going to act. again, not just talking tough, but actually carrying through with those actions. impose those...
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if you remember, in november they declared on their own a unilateral air defense zone over thousands of miles in the pacific. this is a very dangerous precedent that's been setting. iraq was a disaster. this was an even lower precedent for military intervention. putin has sort of outplayed us over the last decade. now germany gets 40% of its natural gas from russia. he knows that. he thinks the germans won't back sanctions. it is angela merkel, the german chancellor, who's saying we should not kick russia out of the g8. it's hurting him economically. it's isolating him. you don't give him the olympic games. you don't allow him in the g8. you hold him accountable. and i agree with steve, you have a strategy to isolate putin. putin is dangerous. putinism is dangerous. this rise of authoritarianism is something we need counter patiently, slowly, but consistently over time. >> steve, one of the problems in a situation like this is the ultimate action no one is willing to take. there is no one saying we should be willing to go to war with russia over this incursion. and once you eliminate
if you remember, in november they declared on their own a unilateral air defense zone over thousands of miles in the pacific. this is a very dangerous precedent that's been setting. iraq was a disaster. this was an even lower precedent for military intervention. putin has sort of outplayed us over the last decade. now germany gets 40% of its natural gas from russia. he knows that. he thinks the germans won't back sanctions. it is angela merkel, the german chancellor, who's saying we should not...
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expanding that protection to allow businesses to cite a violation of their own religious beliefs as a defense if they're sued for failing to provide service. the bill was inspired by a new mexico supreme court ruling against a wedding photographer who refused service to a same-sex couple, and it massed quickly through the very conservative-controlled state legislature in arizona last week. in the last few days, pressure on brewer to veto the bill has grown from almost every corner. the arizona story crossed the threshold from political feeding frenzy into the mainstream. it was showing up on every platform yesterday, from espn to late-night talk shows. and though brewer claimed she was not influenced by cheers and boos from the crowd, it was clear from the outset that her state, whose reputation has already been tarnished over the years in the wake of the state's 2010 immigration law, had a lot to lose. on wednesday, the nfl, quote, began investigating the necessary steps to move next season's super bowl from the phoenix area. prompting memories of 1993 when the super bowl was moved from temp
expanding that protection to allow businesses to cite a violation of their own religious beliefs as a defense if they're sued for failing to provide service. the bill was inspired by a new mexico supreme court ruling against a wedding photographer who refused service to a same-sex couple, and it massed quickly through the very conservative-controlled state legislature in arizona last week. in the last few days, pressure on brewer to veto the bill has grown from almost every corner. the arizona...
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a crime he claims he committed in self-defense. >> translator: we have pigeons, various breeds, fancy pigeons. fantails, which are inside the cage right now. we have hens, peacocks, geese, roosters, and since recently, goslings. i feed them. i look after them. i don't allow a single bird to go missing. if a bird gets injured or ill, i report it to the administration. >> he told me that he could tell by the sounds of the birds the different species, what was going on with them. if they were fighting. if they were mating. if they, you know, were friends. he had -- he said he really felt he understood the birds and that they understood him. >> translator: it's relaxing to see all the different birds. we have a small pool for them here. and it's fun to watch them gather there, drink water, bathe, fly around. >> it was obvious he had a relationship with these birds. we were watching him interact. they weren't frightened of him in any way. >> along with his unique relationship with the birds, rasha had a unique living situation, as well. he lived on his own, away from the other inmates. >>
a crime he claims he committed in self-defense. >> translator: we have pigeons, various breeds, fancy pigeons. fantails, which are inside the cage right now. we have hens, peacocks, geese, roosters, and since recently, goslings. i feed them. i look after them. i don't allow a single bird to go missing. if a bird gets injured or ill, i report it to the administration. >> he told me that he could tell by the sounds of the birds the different species, what was going on with them. if...
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at 2008, when russia went into the state of georgia, that had been preceded by a huge buildup in our defense budget and of course president bush had invaded iraq. so the notion that somehow wif we have a weak foreign policy that emboldens putin, is a lot of hot air. i was pleased to see bob gates the other day, a republican himself, call upon republicans to really do what we should be doing, speaking with one voice and congress can help in that area by quickly moving on the economic aid, including the imf piece, which the president mentioned which unfortunately is not in the house package that will be voted on today. >> thank you, congressman van holl hollen. key parts of the what the president is proposing will require mobilization on the part of congress. we'll watch your momenvements o that. >> up next, remember that other story unfolding today domestically, governor christie speaking at today's cpac meeting and president's new push to get hispanics to sign up for health care. and talking about why she lashed out at the president last week getting a lot of press. >>> finally, we've got he
at 2008, when russia went into the state of georgia, that had been preceded by a huge buildup in our defense budget and of course president bush had invaded iraq. so the notion that somehow wif we have a weak foreign policy that emboldens putin, is a lot of hot air. i was pleased to see bob gates the other day, a republican himself, call upon republicans to really do what we should be doing, speaking with one voice and congress can help in that area by quickly moving on the economic aid,...
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zimmerman claimed he killed the unarmed teen in self defense. since then, zimmerman remained in the news at times, twice received warnings, once was issued a speeding violation, also charged in november with aggravated assault of his girlfriend. those charges were later dropped and since his acquittal, the debate over the role of race and stand your ground laws has continued. those laws did originate in florida and they've only intensified as a political issue, particularly after a recent mistrial of michael dunn on the trial of first-degree murder in the case of the shooting of jordan davis, also in florida, fatally shot. that was just months after trayvon martin. we're going to turn here to our guests, editor and chief of global grind, michael, and yamiche. how do you do? >> doing all right. >> i want to start, yamiche, with your interview of sabrina mcbath and put up something she said to you, the mother of jordan davis. "it's an established mindset that young black males in this country are dangerous and they are people to be feared." that's
zimmerman claimed he killed the unarmed teen in self defense. since then, zimmerman remained in the news at times, twice received warnings, once was issued a speeding violation, also charged in november with aggravated assault of his girlfriend. those charges were later dropped and since his acquittal, the debate over the role of race and stand your ground laws has continued. those laws did originate in florida and they've only intensified as a political issue, particularly after a recent...
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part of the soviet union and those members previously of the war saw pact and reaffirm the collective defense of nato, ie., putin needs to know those countries are off limits. those are the three elements of the obama strategy that's developing. >> how about your assessment, the grander question of putin? certainly he has nostalgia for the old order, greater russia but he's no hitler. where would you place him in terms of his aggressiveness? his willingness to go in bringing back the captive nations, wouldn't go that far, would he? is this the limit of where he's going to go with crimea? >> putin is two things, a russian nationalist, for the last 14, 15 years, his primary strategic goal is to restore pride too russia and restore strength to russia and have other countries respect russia's role in the world and expand russian influence in their near abroad. he's been intimidating armenia and ukraine and saying, don't join the western group, stay under our orbit. but at the same time, chris, he's a realist. he respects power. that's why it's so important for the united states and for president
part of the soviet union and those members previously of the war saw pact and reaffirm the collective defense of nato, ie., putin needs to know those countries are off limits. those are the three elements of the obama strategy that's developing. >> how about your assessment, the grander question of putin? certainly he has nostalgia for the old order, greater russia but he's no hitler. where would you place him in terms of his aggressiveness? his willingness to go in bringing back the...
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still, big tobacco's twinkie defense was good politics. today it's probably not good politics or science. obesity illnesses now outpace smoking as a rising driver of health care costs. some regulators are considering targeting big soda and food companies with the same tactics they used. free market doesn't mean free rein to manipulate our children. one lawyer wants state attorneys generals to investigate. joining us is paul mcdonald. welcome and what are you trying do here? >> good morning. what i'm trying to do here, you made reference to the cost. currently taxpayers bear 100% of the costs associated with obesity related illnesses paid through medicaid and what i'm trying to do here is say what we ought to look at is whether or not the food manufacturers bear any responsibility. if they bear more than zero responsibility then there's a dividing line between personal responsibility and their responsibility and whatever percentage falls on them i think should be paid back to the taxpayers as opposed to taxpayers bearing 100% of the costs.
still, big tobacco's twinkie defense was good politics. today it's probably not good politics or science. obesity illnesses now outpace smoking as a rising driver of health care costs. some regulators are considering targeting big soda and food companies with the same tactics they used. free market doesn't mean free rein to manipulate our children. one lawyer wants state attorneys generals to investigate. joining us is paul mcdonald. welcome and what are you trying do here? >> good...
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putin would call it an act of self-defense. to save what he calls russian compatriots from the threat of those anti-russian agents emanating from kiev. now, that's very much part of the old soviet playbook. to justify military intervention. we've talked about that before. we've seen that many times in the past. and reporters who are there on the ground have seen absolutely no such threats to ethnic russians. but according to many analysts we've talked to here in moscow. putin does tend to see the new pro-western government in kiev as posing an existential threat toe his interests in ukraine. meaning crimea, they say, gives put than essential warm water port. it gives him that base for his black sea fleet. and he's apparently now made that cost-benefit calculation, that taking crimea back is actually worth the risk. he's not worried, apparently, about the consequences. be that half of the g-8 nations don't show up in sochi or that russia is somehow slapped with some form of sanctions. putin, we're told doesn't doesn't believe th
putin would call it an act of self-defense. to save what he calls russian compatriots from the threat of those anti-russian agents emanating from kiev. now, that's very much part of the old soviet playbook. to justify military intervention. we've talked about that before. we've seen that many times in the past. and reporters who are there on the ground have seen absolutely no such threats to ethnic russians. but according to many analysts we've talked to here in moscow. putin does tend to see...
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against people who were basically threatening georgian interests and then the russians moving in, in defense of their interests and of their compatriots or citizens on the ground. so we're in a very similar situation here. the one big difference is that they were part of the republic of georgia and were always part of that territory. what we're talking about here about crimea where it does seem that the russians are at least laying the groundwork for some kind of legal case to suggest that perhaps crimea could at some juncture become part of the russian federation again so there really is a distinction there. but we've been there before. we've been there before with vladimir putin and frankly have been in very similar situations in the past as you've just laid out since the 1990s on a great deal of trouble over crimea, over ukraine, over the disposition of many of the states that have emerged after the soviet union. >> in terms of the motivations here on the russian side, if the russian federation does decide to stay in crimea on a permanent basis and, as you say, maybe even make a case for
against people who were basically threatening georgian interests and then the russians moving in, in defense of their interests and of their compatriots or citizens on the ground. so we're in a very similar situation here. the one big difference is that they were part of the republic of georgia and were always part of that territory. what we're talking about here about crimea where it does seem that the russians are at least laying the groundwork for some kind of legal case to suggest that...
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deep defense cuts. deep cuts to the military. but 63% spending increase overall, because of all of the new domestic spending. and so, that really isn't an attempt to bridge the gap and find common ground. he's just moving farther to the left. i see that more of an election year thing. >> or is it something to start with, and then you all negotiate? like, for example, you also say a divided government, we need leadership and collaboration. where are you willing to collaborate on his list of proposals? >> that's my point, mika, which is last year he put provisions in there that looked like he wanted to bridge the gap and come together. he went farther to the left. he's not moving to the middle. he's not moving toward republicans. he's not offering common ground. he's moving farther to the left. >> is there anything in his budget you would be willing to talk about in order to perhaps -- >> yeah, we're willing to talk about -- we're willing to talk about a whole host of issues. when you look at a budget, you look at it in its totalit
deep defense cuts. deep cuts to the military. but 63% spending increase overall, because of all of the new domestic spending. and so, that really isn't an attempt to bridge the gap and find common ground. he's just moving farther to the left. i see that more of an election year thing. >> or is it something to start with, and then you all negotiate? like, for example, you also say a divided government, we need leadership and collaboration. where are you willing to collaborate on his list...
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. >> i think we should revisit the missile defense shield that we talk about so often. >> i would just cancel in sochi. i wouldn't talk about the planning session. i would cancel it. >> i would like to create a democratic news around putin's russia. >> we start north of crimea with nbc's ian williams. ian, there's been a lot of claims and counter claims today. what's the latest there on the ground? >> reporter: it's a confusing picture, toure. we've seen a lot of so-called deadlines come and go, which we've heard from russian news agencies, from the ukrainian government. but it does seem that russia is pretty well in control of crimea. and the question now, and it's something which john kerry is going to be looking at closely tomorrow, on how he can under it, is what russia does next. and the focus will be on this region here, where i am today, in east ukraine. this is the second biggest city in the country, the industrial heartland, kharkov. many people here have been encouraged with what's happening in ukraine and would ideally like the russians to come in here, too. behind me, you p
. >> i think we should revisit the missile defense shield that we talk about so often. >> i would just cancel in sochi. i wouldn't talk about the planning session. i would cancel it. >> i would like to create a democratic news around putin's russia. >> we start north of crimea with nbc's ian williams. ian, there's been a lot of claims and counter claims today. what's the latest there on the ground? >> reporter: it's a confusing picture, toure. we've seen a lot of...
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>> i think so, and the defense budget. jimmy carter, one thing to his credit, increased defense spending. what kind of example does it set when we're slashing the army and the defense across the board in the light of the world we're looking at? >> thank you. [ doctor ] and in a clinical trial versus lipitor, crestor got more high-risk patients' bad cholesterol to a goal of under 100. way to go, crestor! yeah! getting to goal is a big deal, especially if you have high cholesterol plus any of these risk factors. because you could be at increased risk for plaque buildup in your arteries over time. so, when diet and exercise aren't enough to lower cholesterol, adding crestor can help. go, crestor! ♪ ♪ oh, yeah [ female announcer ] crestor is not right for everyone, like people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor about other medicines you're taking. call your doctor right away if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired, have loss of appetite, upper b
>> i think so, and the defense budget. jimmy carter, one thing to his credit, increased defense spending. what kind of example does it set when we're slashing the army and the defense across the board in the light of the world we're looking at? >> thank you. [ doctor ] and in a clinical trial versus lipitor, crestor got more high-risk patients' bad cholesterol to a goal of under 100. way to go, crestor! yeah! getting to goal is a big deal, especially if you have high cholesterol...
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bush when we had a much larger defense budget, we couldn't do anything to stop russia when it invaded georgia, so i don't think there's much in terms of that. we did have, like you mentioned, the $40 million of trade with s russia and they want more. even last december they were trying to negotiate to have not quite a free trade deal but a much bigger economic tie to the united states. so if we cut off those talks, if we try to as far as we can within the wto lower our trade with russia, that would send a pressey strong message. >> how far are we going to go? will we turn russia into an international pariah? what really are these harsh measures? i don't think that, oh, not going to sochi g-8, no one wants to go there anyway. >> we've been there. we've seen the hotels. >> you mentioned possibly taking away visas from the parliament. that is an option on the table. putting a travel ban on putin traveling outside of russia if the u.s. really wants to send a strong message -- >> which would be great. >> round up our allies to do the same thing, that would be amazing. >> there are some rea
bush when we had a much larger defense budget, we couldn't do anything to stop russia when it invaded georgia, so i don't think there's much in terms of that. we did have, like you mentioned, the $40 million of trade with s russia and they want more. even last december they were trying to negotiate to have not quite a free trade deal but a much bigger economic tie to the united states. so if we cut off those talks, if we try to as far as we can within the wto lower our trade with russia, that...